Vehicle Use for Corporation

by Sharon
(Calgary)

Business Use of a Personal Vehicle

Business Use of a Personal Vehicle

I have a client that has recently incorporated. He took out a loan to purchase a used vehicle to use strictly for business purposes. The loan is registered in the corporation's name and the loan payments are coming out of the corporation's bank account.


However, the registration and insurance is in the Owner's name. The insurance is commercial but the monthly premiums are being paid out of the Owner's personal bank account.

Should the registration and insurance not be in the Corporation's name for a proper audit trail or does it matter?

Secondly, should I go back and do expense reports and post those transactions to shareholder?

Lastly where would I look to find how to track vehicle expenses for a vehicle being used 100% for business on CRA's website.



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Hi Sharon,

You can search CRA's site for the words "Automobile and motor vehicle allowances" to find the treatment for corporate vehicles.

On my CRA News page, I have links to vehicle topics ... both personal and corporate.

It's important when setting up your business transactions to keep all your ducks in a row. Business owners often have a hard time understanding that a corporation has a separate legal identity.

As I've explained before, if an asset is registered in the owner's name, it is a personal asset regardless if the funds to purchase were removed from the corporation.

You need to treat this as a personal vehicle used in the business. This means, unless he has another vehicle he uses for his personal life ... and parks the car at the work place during non-business hours, it will be difficult to claim it is 100% business use. Remember, driving to and from the office is NOT considered business use.

This also means the loan payments will have to be treated as shareholder loans. The Owner-Manager will have to monitor this account closely to ensure it stays in a credit position. Once the shareholder account switches to a debit position, new rules come into play.







P.S. I would like to remind you there is a difference between information and advice. The general information provided in this post or on my site should not be construed as advice. You should not act or rely on this information without engaging professional advice specific to your situation prior to using this site content for any reason whatsoever.

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Jan 20, 2014
Corporations and shareholder owned assets
by: Anonymous

I have a client that is in the trucking industry.

The shareholder owns the semi truck and the corporation makes the monthly payments.

I have been booking the monthly payments to shareholders loans... BUT... Should I be expensing the payment instead?

Thanks greatly for any suggestions.

Jan 20, 2014
Corporations and shareholder owned assets
by: Lake

Hi, I moved your post here. Hopefully this posting helps you out.

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Company Vehicle and the Individual

Selling the company car to yourself

Selling the company car to yourself

I have a client that is the sole shareholder. His company owns his vehicle. He has a large credit balance in his shareholder loan account.

He would like to transfer his vehicle from the company to himself as payback from his shareholder loan. As there is no cash being transfered, what are the tax implications in regards to this transaction.



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Sorry I don't provide tax advice. I would also advise your client to see an accountant on this one as owner-managers need to be very careful when withdrawing money or assets from the corporation in the event it triggers a taxable event ... even though you say the account is in a credit balance.

An accountant can't always fix the effects of these types after they been done ... but they certainly can before the transaction occurs.

CRA does audit for vehicle transactions (which are often easy pickings) and shareholder loan transactions.

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Jan 30, 2012
Buy or rent personal vehicle to company?
by: Kelsey, Alberta, Canada

We recently incorporated our company in Oct, 2011. It is an oilfield consulting company for my husband.

He purchased a truck personally in April 2011 for $20,000 with a bank loan that comes out monthly. Obviously it was purchased before we incorporated, but I'm wondering if now we should:

a) sell it to the company; or

b) rent it to the company to cover the loan payment as well as insurance payment?

I have the same question for his quad. He purchased it in the summer time but now uses it for the business and bills it out on his invoices for work.

We are also thinking of selling this truck in question in the spring time. He'll buy a new one which we'll just buy with the company right off the bat. So because we're only planning on having this truck for a few more months, should we just rent it to the company for Oct 2011 until we get rid of it?

Also will his personal purchases regarding the truck be considered write-offs for the company if he's only renting it to it, or does it have to be owned by the company? I appreciate anyone's help. I'm just getting back into doing books and am a little rusty :)

Jan 30, 2012
Company Vehicle
by: Lake

Kelsey, check out these two chats on whether your company should own the vehicle and how to reimburse for use of your personal vehicle if you are incorporated.

Take the time to visit CRA's website and get to know the tax rules surrounding vehicles (it can be complicated) as it is easy pickings in an audit for those that don't follow the rules or weren't aware of them ... or arrange an appointment with your tax accountant to run through your options.

Sole proprietors, your rules are different. See this article for more information.


Feb 04, 2012
The company car: a big benefit or a big tax burden?
by: Lake

While researching company vehicles for the February 2012 newsletter, I came across an excellent article you may want to read:

The company car: a big benefit or a big tax burden? by Richard Kirby. He is a lawyer with the firm of Felesky Flynn LLP in Edmonton, Alberta.

A QUICK OVERVIEW

In the article, Mr. Kirby talks about "the taxable benefit (the amount which will be taxed) can be significant for an employee who has an employer's automobile made available for his or her use."

He ends the article stating "employees must consider which alternative is better:

* to use their own vehicles and be reimbursed or receive an allowance from their employers, or

* to accept the company car and the tax burden that comes with the executive perk. employee."

You can find the article at FindArticle.com>Business>LawNow> December, 2004.

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Personal Vehicle Use in an Incorporated Business

by Shavonne
(NL, Canada)

My husband owns an incorporated business along with a partner.

My husband uses our personal vehicle to do all of his business, as well as his personal travels on the weekends.

I have been thinking that since I own half of the vehicle, and it is racking up km's to the point where it may not make the 5 year loan point, I should be compensated for my share of the payment, at least 5/7 days of the week that it's used for business.

Do you think that I should be paid 1/2 of 5/7 of the payment (where we both pay for the vehicle), or do you think there is a better way?

Essentially the business is using our vehicle free of charge right now and I'm paying for a vehicle that is going to be useless before it's paid off.

Thanks for any suggestions you may be able to give us!



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Hello Shavonne,

You definitely want to reduce your tax liabilities by claiming your automobile costs relating to the business. This is an area with complex, inflexible rules, so know your rules to avoid trouble with the tax auditor.

Take a minute to learn your options for reimbursement of your personal vehicle when you are incorporated in my article on Business Use of Your Personal Vehicle.

You have two options; an allowance based on business kilometers driven OR an allowance not based on kilometers driven.

If you chose the first option, make sure you adhere to the CRA tax-exempt rates if you don't want to be taxed on the allowance.

It's always a good idea when claiming business use of your personal vehicle to keep an auto log. Your best defense during an audit is supporting documents.

The CRA brought out new auto log rules in late June, 2010. You can find it on the CRA website by keying in the search box: "Documenting the use of a vehicle". It will be up to you to decide if their simplified method will work for you ... or whether you stick with a twelve month log every year.

Sole proprietors have different business use rules, so don't confuse their rules with the rules for an incorporated business.

After looking over the information and following the links, if you have any more questions, please post back here and ask them ... and great thinking on your part Shavonne!





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Jul 20, 2010
This Might Also Interest You
by: Bookkeeping Essentials

Shavonne,

This page of notes on incorporated businesses might also be of interest to you and your husband.

Here is a link to a summary of what you will find:

CCPC - Canadian Controlled Private Corporation Notes

Nov 20, 2012
HST on Gas Expense
by: Kathy

Hi Lake,

I've done some searching on your site and haven't been able to find an answer to the following:

My company is incorporated and registered for HST.

I am charging my company for 50% of my personal vehicle expenses (the business use portion). Can the company claim an ITC for 50% of the HST that was paid on the gas receipt?

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Kathy, corporations have 2 options with regards reimbursing for business use of their personal vehicle.

One option is based on an allowance per kilometre. The GST/HST expense is "built into" the allowance rate. See GST on Mileage to learn how calculate the amount of HST included in the allowance.

The forum post on Employee Auto Allowance discusses when taxable benefits for auto allowances kick in.

To see all the posts / articles on reimbursing business use of your business vehicle, type "vehicle allowance" in the site's search box.

Don't confuse your corporate options with other vehicle travel reimbursement options.

Hope this helps Kathy.

Nov 27, 2012
Personal Vehicle Use in an Incorporated Business
by: Kathy

Lake,

Just so I am clear, as an incorporated business I do NOT have the option to write off a percentage of my total vehicle expenses, this option is only available to sole proprietors?

Thanks.



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That's my understanding Kathy.

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Automobile Benefits for Shareholders

by Jody
(Halifax, NS, Canada)

Automobile Benefits For Shareholders

Automobile Benefits For Shareholders

I have been trying to find an example of a bookkeeping entry for recording the automobile benefit for shareholders, one that shows what to debit and what to credit.

I know the benefit has to be claimed as wages and salaries expense, and the associated income tax withheld is credited to my Employee Income Taxes account, but what do I do with the difference? This difference is a credit, but, has nowhere to go!

If anyone has any experience in this area, any guidance would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in Advance



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Hey Jody,

Payroll is not my speciality but here is what I've found.

PwC has an excellent tax guide for car expenses and benefits that they release each year. 2013 has not been released yet but the 2012 guide can be found at pwc.com> research & insights> by service (click on more services)> tax> car expenses and benefits.

Page 7 of the guide explains how to book withholdings related to the standby charge and the operating cost benefit.

The CPA Pay Statement Guidelines may also be of assistance. You don't need to be a member to access the document. It can be found at payroll.ca> resources> payroll guidelines.

Generally most payroll software will book the required entries when you process payroll.

The basic entries for payroll are discussed at Manual Payroll.

Do you have some numbers or an example of your journal entry so I can see what you are booking so far? Generally I would assume that you will have one of three things when booking a benefit: the employee compensation, the employee paid benefits including company auto taxable benefits, or the employer paid benefits.

Hopefully other site visitors with more payroll experience will be able to help.

For those interested in more information on shareholder taxable benefits relating to the company vehicle, you may want to read about shareholder conferred benefits.

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Jun 05, 2014
Calculating Automobile Benefits
by: Anonymous

I have a question on how the taxable benefit for our field service employees would be calculated. I believe that for this purpose the vehicle definition would be considered a motor vehicle as it is used for 90% more for business use.

1. Would the employee pay taxes on the operating expense at .27¢ as well as a standby charge?
2. Is it the same calculations if it falls under a motor vehicle as it is for a passenger vehicle?
3. Also, would sales people be exempt from paying any taxes on the company provided vehicles?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.



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Try using CRA's online automobile benefits calculator. It asks a series of questions to help give you a customized calculation pertinent to your situation. It is located at
cra-arc.gc.ca/autobenefits-calculator.

Sep 15, 2017
Multiple vehicle purchase and sale, Corporation
by: Lu

Hi,
I have a pickle here.
Corporation finances the vehicle in Corporate name that is used more that 50% in business. Purchase is in January, 2016, price- 53,000.00.

Now if the loan is for 53,000 and we can only use 30,000, does the difference go to shareholder?

Is ITC on HST only $3,900?

Next, the Corporation sells this car in June, 2016 for 45,000. What are the bookkeeping entries at this point? What about HST on sale?

Next, Corporation finances another similar vehicle in May, 2016 for 54,000. Do we claim HST again and what bookkeeping entries are done at this point?

Your advice would be highly appreciated.

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